I have a question for Bill Clinton. Its a difficult question to ask, because for most of my life, Bill Clinton has been one of my heroes. I can still remember his inauguration, although I was only in second grade at the time. Yet, now I find myself angry with a man that I held up as a role model for most of my life, and its a difficult place to be.
Despite all the things that Bill Clinton did right, and all the things that were done wrong to him, I feel strongly that there is a common standard that absolutely no one can excuse himself from. Neither achievement nor position is a substitute for that standard, and neither can be used to justify deviation from that standard. I feel that Bill Clinton no longer applies the standard of his early years, and so my question for him is as follows:
Mr. President, if Ronald Reagan had opposed you as actively in 1992 as you are opposing Sen. Obama in 2008, do you feel that you would have had a fair chance to present your pitch to the American people, and ultimately, to become president?
So for the past year I have been mocking John Edwards and his supporters for the most absurdly dishonest campaign I have ever seen on our side of the aisle, and many of you have gotten quite peeved about it. You've called me shameless for questioning Edwards' absurd record, and several of you have really made it a vendetta. So - my question for you: will you now be peeved at Russ Feingold?
"The one that is the most problematic is (John) Edwards, who voted for the Patriot Act, campaigns against it. Voted for No Child Left Behind, campaigns against it. Voted for the China trade deal, campaigns against it. Voted for the Iraq war ... He uses my voting record exactly as his platform, even though he had the opposite voting record."
-Russ Feingold
hahahahahaha... I can't stop laughing.
Yesterday I wrote a diary pointing to the fact that the more progressive an Iowa voter was, the more likely he was to vote for Obama, whereas the more conservative he was, the more likely to vote for Edwards.
Clearly, this has not been missed in the Edwards camp. So, they are now attacking Obama for being a corporate sellout, ie - not a liberal.
John Edwards is a particularly classy sort of guy. He opposes universal healthcare in one cycle, and then a few years later swings to the opposite extreme and attacks HILLARY CLINTON for her health care plan, the same Hillary Clinton that actually fought for healthcare over a decade ago. Like I said, a classy sort of man.
So now, he is attacking Obama. I'm not even going to address his attacks, because I see no reason to. I'm just going to ask the following question:
"When has John Edwards gone beyond talking and used his elected office to put into practice the multitude of liberal ideas he is running on in 2008?"
I am pretty surprised by what I see in the Iowa breakdown. Obama won the "very liberal", "somewhat liberal", and "moderate" categories, whereas Edwards won the "conservative" category. Hillary did not win any groups in the ideological breakdown.
http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/primari es/results/epolls/#val=IADEM
I think this is a pretty strong repudiation of the conventional wisdom on this site and elsewhere in the netroots. Iowa voters apparently remember, unlike the netroots, who Edwards was in 2004 and this has played out indisputably in the numbers.
Also, Obama won the majority of Democrats, so please stop this BS about how he only won because of independents.
I was kind of hoping for Clinton, but I had no idea that Obama could bring out my age group the way he did - I really thought it was impossible. If he can do this, I will support him in the general, because **if my generation returns to the voting booths, we will have a progressive majority for our LIFETIMES!!!**
Very exiting stuff. Lets all celebrate!
I've been upset with Obama for a while now. I canvassed for him back in July, have donated repeatedly to his campaign, and really could not understand why his damn campaign is going nowhere. Then, he started to do things which... well frankly defy logic. In the name of bridging the partisan divide, or some shit, he has lately done a number of profoundly ugly things, and hanging out with "reformed" ex-gays is frankly the final straw for me. I'm out. His coal-friendly energy plan bothered me, his timidity in debates against Hillary and even Edwards (?) bothered me, his Iran political-play bothered me, and hanging out with ex-gays is straight out of the Bush 04' playbook. That's quite enough for me.
Hillary 08'. I just hope she realizes that the whole REASON people are choosing her over Barack is that he is compromising his progressivism, and not because he is too left wing. Dear Hillary: forget the center - move left. And for god's sake, bury the hatchet with Gore and use him in your administration.
Does anyone have any use for a bunch of Obama 08' bumper stickers and pamphlets? They're going in the dumpster Monday morning.
I can hardly believe that the Edwards campaign could do anything to make me dislike them more, but they just did:
Elizabeth Edwards criticizes the the MoveOn ad - go read it on HufPo.
So lets get this straight - Edwards wants to end the war immediately (whether thats possible or not), but he has no problem with a General who seeks personal gain (careerism, I think its called) at the expense of the country and is willing to declare that things in Iraq are looking rosy after all, so long as you do things such as only count people shot in the front of the head as assisnations (if you get shot from behind, thats a love tap?).
Edwards people - WAKE UP! All he does is stake out positions that neither Hillary or Obama will adopt not because he believes them or believes that they are tenable, but because he WANTS ATTENTION. Sometimes, he likes to use his wife to try and stake out BOTH positions on an issue: an example of this is Mrs. Edwards' support for the gay community, which starkly contrasts Mr. Edwards' obvious discomfort with gay marriage. Sure, shes her own woman, entitled to her own opinions - but its clear that when she is a regular spokeswoman for the campaign, its about more than personal preference.
The Edwards campaign does a disservice to our party by engaging in what I regard as the most dishonest campaign any Democrat has run since Bush was elected. This is NOT who we need to become.
Apparently JE is in need of something to talk about, some issue to use to get people to pay attention to him. The issue he has chosen is authenticity in political messages - if you're choking right now, yeah, I'm right there with you. That's right, John Edwards has come out and picked a fight with Obama, calling him the Kumbaya cadidate. Very cute. Of course nobody on this website mentions it because its pretty stupid and exposes Edwards for what Mydd-ers hope so desperately he isn't - foolish.
If John Edwards actually wants to win the campaign, it is very clear that he needs Obama to take the black vote from HRC. Therefore, the smartest thing for him to do would be to attack Hillary, not Obama. But, Hillary is quite mean and he knows it, so he goes for Obama instead. What the hell? Is it going to fall to Elizabeth Edwards to attack Hillary too? The whole premise of this attack is completely inane becase (1)it gets Edwards nowhere (2) it makes him look bad (3) it gives Obama ammunition to hit him where it hurts later. Keep in mind - Edwards needs Obama in the race, but the opposite is not true.
Its that time again. Harry Reid is going to sit down with Senate Republicans, and try to hammer out some variety of half measure which appeases the antiwar crowd but does not cross the threshold of actual action. This leads me to the following idea:
As a means of healing some of the rancor on this site which has erupted over the primaries, I propose that we put a brief moratorium on primary battles, and attempt to organize an honest effort to push our party (OUR party!) into the arena of action, and out of the theatre of war.
If the netroots cannot do this, what good are the netroots? Details after the jump..
· Iowa commission takes one small step against CAFOs (desmoinesdem)
· LA-06: Cazayoux's Gittin' It Done! (DailyKingFish)
· Secrets of the American Future Fund (chase martyn)
· Happy Birthday Jerome! (Jonathan Singer)
· Oilmen For Scott Garrett (NJ-5) (Aaron Banks)
· Youth Delegates at DNC Outnumber RNC 15 - 1 (Mike Connery)
· LA-02: James Carter's First Ad (DailyKingFish)
· Clean Coal's Goodie Bag for Dem. Delegates (lowkell)
· Liveblogging Obama Town Hall (fbihop)
· McCain's Goons Throw Birthday Cake In Trash (fbihop)
· IA-04: Would-be independent candidate fails to qualify for ballot (desmoinesdem)
· TX-Sen: They Don't Call it a Stump Speech for Nothing (KTinTX)